Williams Family Tree

Events

Event	Date	Place	Description	Sources
Birth	1873-06-29	Brecknockshire		1
				1
Birth	between 1872-04-03 and 1873-04-02	Brecknockshire?		2 3
				2 3
Birth	between 1873-04-04 and 1874-04-03			4
				4
Residence	1881-04-03	2 Miles Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK		4
				4
Residence	1891-04-05	5 High Street, Penydarren, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK		5
				5
Occupation	1891-04-05		Dressmaker	5
				5
Residence	1891-12-30	5, Music Terrace, Penydarren (or Musical Terrace)		6
				6
Residence	1894-01-08	5, Music Terrace, Penydarren (or Musical Terrace)		7
				7
Residence	1895-02-10	Talbot Shop, High Street, Penydarren, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK		8
				8
Residence	1901-03-31	85 Roding Road, Hackney, London, UK		3
				3
Residence	1911-04-02	85 Roding Road, Hackney, London, UK		2
				2
Residence	1911-12-18	85 Roding Road, Hackney, London, UK		9
				9
Residence (Unknown)	1916-12-11	85 Roding Road, Hackney, London, UK		10
				10
Residence (Unknown)	1918-09-00	2 Cromwell Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK		11
				11
Residence	before 1929	4 Offerton Road, Lambeth, London, UK		12
				12
Residence	1929	6, Thornbury Road, Clapham, London, UK		12
				12
Residence	before 1939	London, UK
	Event Note Before WW2, Annie and various of the siblings lived at an enormous house at 1, Streatham Hill. He doesn't know if this was owned or rented. It was eventually compulsorily purchased and a block of flats built in its place. LCWilliams and Hywel made themselves responsible for Annie's family finances, probably because they had the biggest salaries. The house had a U-shaped gravel drive that was always full of cars. Owen and Ivor Williams bought the cars and did them up for resale. Annie bred pomeranian dogs, perhaps 15 at a time. They bit! From Ivor Fielder Conversation source Event Note This is wrong! It was 21 Streatham place. Ivor is mistaken according to Brenda Wells in conversation on 6 sep 2009.
Residence	before 1941-04-18	21 Streatham Place, Lambeth, London, UK		12 13
	Event Note Gladys's wartime letter 7 to her daughter Brenda is dated Thursday April 24 1941. In it, Gwladys speaks of sleeping at Streatham Place the previous Thursday, unaware that a bomb had landed in the garden and was waiting to go off. They had to leave the house on the Friday, which would have been 18 Apr 1941.			12 13
Residence	1941	New Park Road, Streatham		12
				12
Residence	1950-06-25	96, Streatham High Road, London, UK

Death	1950-06-25		at South London Hospital	14
	Event Note Cause of death (a) Cerebral Haemorrhage (b) Hypertension			14
Burial	after 1950-06-25	Streatham park Cemetery, Rowan Road, London, UK	Annie, John and Blanche Grave	15 16
				15 16

Relation to the centre person (Watkins, Thomas) : daughter

Parents

Relation to main person	Name	Birth date	Death date
Father	Watkins, Thomas [I0017]	between 1848-04-04 and 1850-04-05
Mother	Price, Margaret [I0018]	between 1851-04-08 and 1854-04-05
	Watkins, Annie [I0011]	1873-06-29	1950-06-25
Sister	Watkins, Jane [I0022]	between 1877-04-04 and 1878-04-03
Brother	Watkins, Hugh Price [I0019]	between 1881-06-01 and 1881-09-30
Brother	Watkins, Edgar [I0020]	1883-12-04
Brother	Watkins, Thomas William [I0021]	between 1885-04-06 and 1886-04-05

Families

Family of Williams, John Thomas and Watkins, Annie [F0000]

Unknown

Partner

Williams, John Thomas [I0012] ( * 1871-03-07 + 1935-01-24 )

Event	Date	Place	Description	Sources
Marriage	between 1888-04-01 and 1889-03-31			2
	Person Note According to the 1911 census, Annie was 38 and John (not John Thomas) was 40 on April 2 1911, and they had been married 22 years. Mike Buxton points out that this implies that they married when Annie was 16 and John 18. The marriage was sometime between 1 April 1888 and 31 March 1889. Annie is listed as having born 12 children alive, of whom 10 are living and 2 are dead. But we so far know of only 10 children born by this date - everyone up to Haydn, she was only just pregnant with Owen in April 1911. So there are two children born alive who died who we have never heard of. Mike Buxton asks whether this explains the mystery of their marriage at the 1891 census. On 5 April 1891, they were living with Annie's parents as man and wife, yet May (Sarah) wasn't born until 16 Nov 1891, so it woudl barely have been possible for even Annie to know she was pregnant. So Maybe she was pregnant before, which led to their marriage at such an early age when they had no home to go to, and the baby then died. That would be a Williams born in Merthyr sometime between 1 April 1888 and somewhere around 30 Sep 1889. Which would be easy to find if the birth certificates were properly indexed, but they're not. I still can't find any record of their marriage.			2

Children

Name	Birth Date	Death Date
Williams, May [I0015]	1891-11-16	between 1982-12-00 and 1983-03-00
Williams, Blodwen Llewela [I0014]	1893-12-05	1956-02-24
Williams, Gwladys Maud [I0009]	1895-02-10	1974-08-07
Williams, Peggy [I0016]	1898-06-04	1974-01-01
Williams, John Watkins [I0013]	1900-03-13	1971-01-13
Williams, Brenda May [I0010]	1901-08-09	between 1987-03-01 and 1987-03-31
Williams, Ivor Edgar [I0002]	1903-04-05	between 1988-10-01 and 1988-10-31
Williams, Llewellyn Curwen [I0000]	1905-02-17	1988-04-28
Williams, Aneurin Price [I0004]	1907-05-25	1978-05-05
Williams, Haydn Cromwell [I0003]	1909-06-15	between 1998-09-01 and 1998-09-30
Williams, Owen Lloyd [I0001]	1911-11-07	1970-07-01
Williams, Hywel Inigo [I0005]	1913-02-08	1997-08-04
Williams, Dougie [I0096]	1916-10-28	1945-03-10

Media

Annie and John Thomas

Annie Watkins and John Williams about 1904, or May and Ivor Fielder about 1927

annie watkins aged 19

annie watkins aged 19 again

williams group 1

ivorwms&verawedding

ni&girlsdayout1

annie watkins about 1950

annie brenda m dog & ?

WellasWeddingxxx

Annie 2

Gwlad & Annie, Weymouth

neg. Annie, Brenda, ? & dog

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Sarah Annie (May) Wedding a

neg. Annie &?

roding1

roding2

HighStreetPenydarren1906

Narrative

Amelia Leever was a visitor aged 27 from brecknockshire on the 1901 hackney census. Friend of Annie?

Narrative

Spoke Both English and Welsh (1891 census)

Narrative

Brenda Sennitt thinks Annie left John Thomas (or vice versa) at some stage. John Thomas is missing from the 1911 census, but then along come Owen and Hywel, so presumably he came back!

Narrative

Presumably, the older children were living with Thomas and Margaret when Aneurin Edgar was born. That would imply that they decamped from Merthyr Tydfil to Penderyn in 1883. However, I haven't recorded this for the kids.

Narrative

According to the 1911 census, Annie was 38 and John (not John Thomas) was 40 on April 2 1911, and they had been married 22 years. Mike Buxton points out that this implies that they married when Annie was 16 and John 18. The marriage was sometime between 1 April 1888 and 31 March 1889. Annie is listed as having born 12 children alive, of whom 10 are living and 2 are dead. But we so far know of only 10 children born by this date - everyone up to Haydn, she was only just pregnant with Owen in April 1911. So there are two children born alive who died who we have never heard of. Mike Buxton asks whether this explains the mystery of their marriage at the 1891 census. On 5 April 1891, they were living with Annie's parents as man and wife, yet May (Sarah) wasn't born until 16 Nov 1891, so it woudl barely have been possible for even Annie to know she was pregnant. So Maybe she was pregnant before, which led to their marriage at such an early age when they had no home to go to, and the baby then died. That would be a Williams born in Merthyr sometime between 1 April 1888 and somewhere around 30 Sep 1889. Which would be easy to find if the birth certificates were properly indexed, but they're not.

I still can't find any record of their marriage.