Thomas, William Richard 1

Birth Name Thomas, William Richard
Gramps ID I0328
Gender male
Age at Death about 52 years, 9 months

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth between 1849-04-01 and 1850-03-31 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   2
Residence 1871-04-02 High Street, Cefn Coed   3
Event Note

Thomasine's name is missing on the source. We're just hoping, here.

Occupation 1871-04-02   Ironstone miner 3
Residence 1881-04-03 75 High Street, Cefn Coed   4
Occupation 1881-04-03   Coal Miner 4
Residence 1889-09-11 75 High Street, Cefn Coed   5
Occupation 1889-09-11   Collier 5
Residence (Unknown) 1891-04-05 The Rising Sun Inn, 133 High Street, Cefn Coed   6 7
Occupation 1891-04-05   Coal Miner 6
Occupation 1891 The Rising Sun Inn, 133 High Street, Cefn Coed Grocer 7
Residence 1895 The Rising Sun Inn, 133 High Street, Cefn Coed   7
Occupation 1895 The Rising Sun Inn, 133 High Street, Cefn Coed Innkeeper and Grocer 7
Residence 1901-03-31 The Rising Sun Inn, 133 High Street, Cefn Coed   2
Occupation 1901-03-31   Publican and grocer 2
Death about 1902     8 9 10

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Thomas, Richard [I0599]
         Thomas, William Richard [I0328] between 1849-04-01 and 1850-03-31 about 1902

Families

    Family of Thomas, William Richard and Dawkins, Thomasine [F0199]
Married Wife Dawkins, Thomasine [I0590] ( * between 1848-04-04 and 1849-04-03 + between 1886-09-01 and 1886-12-31 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage between 1867-12-01 and 1868-03-30 Merthyr Tydfil Registration District   11
Event Note

This is all guesswork. It's the only Thomas/Thomasine marriage around.

  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Thomas, Richard [I0591]between 1867-04-04 and 1868-04-03
Thomas, George [I0592]between 1869-04-04 and 1870-04-03before 1925-04-25
Thomas, William [I0593]between 1871-04-04 and 1872-04-03
Thomas, Catherine [I0594]between 1873-04-04 and 1874-04-03after 1925-04-25
Thomas, Harry [I0574]between 1878-04-01 and 1879-03-31after 1930-02-15
Thomas, David Richard [I0575]between 1885-04-01 and 1886-03-31after 1925-04-25
    Family of Thomas, William Richard and Williams, Margaret [F0112]
Unknown Partner Williams, Margaret [I0327] ( * 1850-04-12 + 1930-02-09 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1889-09-11 St Gwynno’s Church, Vaynor, Glamorgan, UK   8 5
Event Note

Thomas Jones
William ?R ?Berrysomething?
Emily Kate Hand
were witnesses.

Narrative

The John Thomas Williams 1932 inheritance letter says that Margaret Thomas was the sister of JTW's mother, Sarah Williams nee Williams. So it seems she was born Margaret Williams and must have had a husband surnamed Thomas. That's the only evidence for the existence of this chap.

Narrative

Cannot find Margaret in the 1881 census, despite the fact that Harry Thomas, son, should have been 2 then. But I do find a William R Thomas living at 75 High Street, Cefn Coed. He's a miner married to Thomasine, and they have a son Henry, who's 2. So is Harry/Henry actually Margaret's stepson? That could explain why Margaret didn't leave them anything, and why the children weren't living with them in 1891.

Here's a possible death record for Thomasine:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Thomasine Thomas
Name: Thomasine Thomas
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 38
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 335

and that age matches William R Thomas's wife in the 1881 census. Here is a possible marriage for Thomasine and William:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%)
Dawkins Thomasine Merthyr Tydfil 11a 443
James Ann Merthyr Tydfil 11a 443
Thomas William Merthyr Tydfil 11a 443
Williams Joshua Merthyr Tydfil 11a 443
and Thomasine and William's eldest child was born about 1868, so that matches.

 

So here is a possible marriage for Margaret and William:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
Preece Tracy William Merthyr T. 11a 788
Thomas William Richard Merthyr T. 11a 788
Watkins Sarah Elizabeth Merthyr Tydfil 11a 788
WILLIAMS Margaret Merthyr T 11a 788

which matches the long-guessed surname of Sarah, allegedly Margaret's sister.

Pedigree

  1. Thomas, Richard [I0599]
    1. Thomas, William Richard
      1. Dawkins, Thomasine [I0590]
        1. Thomas, Richard [I0591]
        2. Thomas, George [I0592]
        3. Thomas, William [I0593]
        4. Thomas, Catherine [I0594]
        5. Thomas, Harry [I0574]
        6. Thomas, David Richard [I0575]
      2. Williams, Margaret [I0327]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. JTW Solicitor's letter 1932 [S0179]
  2. Margaret Thomas 1901 census [S0593]
  3. William R Thomas 1871 census [S0607]
  4. William R Thomas 1881 census [S0606]
  5. Margaret Williams marriage certificate [S0613]
  6. Margaret Thomas 1891 census [S0594]
  7. Victorian Cefn directories [S0650]
  8. Margaret Thomas probate [S0591]
  9. Margaret Thomas 1911 census [S0592]
  10. Margaret Thomas Funeral report [S0645]
  11. William Thomas BMD marriage [S0604]